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John Rambo Based on Real Person?
| Mrmovieprop |
Dec 14 2004, 04:11 AM
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Was John Rambo actually based on a real life war hero, or is this a myth? Anyone have any comments on this?
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| King Angry |
May 11 2005, 05:18 AM
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| Mrmovieprop |
May 11 2005, 10:19 AM
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I wonder what the Soviets thought of the origin of the John Rambo character during the Cold War?
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| King Angry |
May 13 2005, 04:41 AM
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I'll bet the soviets were envious that they hadn't come up with a character like that before us!
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| Mrmovieprop |
May 13 2005, 10:18 AM
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I wonder what sorts of similar characters/ideals the Soviets did create for propaganda purposes. I imagine their ideal type characters might have been more focused on "hard" workers who toiled for the cause of Russia rather than elite soldiers though.
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| PARAS SKYE |
Jun 12 2005, 12:34 PM
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[quote=Mrmovieprop,Dec 13 2004, 10:11 PM]
Was John Rambo actually based on a real life war hero, or is this a myth? Anyone have any comments on this? INTRODUCTION The draft you are about to read is the explanation and meaning of who stallone is in relation to his characters rambo , rocky , judge dredd As stallone plays a law giver and law breaker in many ways he is playing a spiritual warrior through the medium of a combat soldier , due to his actions having no selfish motivations or self interest other than to win a war that some else lost . THE EXPLANATION OF WHO STALLONE AND RAMBO ARE The character "rambo" or the name of this character gives stallone the opportunity to show himself and the world his own pastlife reflections of character.the name rambo in india means "gods warrior" Due to the fact that "ram" is the incarnation warrior king" lord rama an incarnation of the hindu god krsna,"bo" naturally pushes one to the buddha in that the buddha gained his enlightenment under the "bodhi tree" in bodha gaya" in varanasi in india. This naturally reflects a lot about stallones spiritual practices in pastlife and maybe present life in that in the rambo 2 and rambo 3 movies buddhas are depicted in the jungles of vietnam and the monastary that rambo 3 is using as "rambos" new vocation by helping them build a temple. As much as the "name "rambo" may have come from a "bag of apples" to write a character for the book by david morrell, the hand of divinity when refecting pastlife benedictions of spirituality ,particuarly in this "age of aquarius the age of eccentricity" the hand of divinity comes through in unpredictable ways. In reality out of david morrells name you have four out of the five letters of "rambo" so naturally this reflecting his own pastlife links to india, tibet or southern asian countries. Naturally in david morrells name "rama =ram, (as in krsnas incarnation warrior king)as well as veda which is the indian scriptures of krsnas pastimes on earth" as well as the name of the tibetan teachers in buddhism "lama" The character "rambo" naturally from a pastlife perspective of stallones own personal character naturally mirrors itself into this life ,which is why stallones character roles are one man heroes for in his own personal psyche the rambo nature is still just as powerful as it was at a time when he would have been having to live the same way himself . For the period of time "astrologically" for stallone as his ascending constellation during the "rocky 1 and 2 films and first blood movie", was in the motion of "karmic refection of capricorn and saturn", Which naturally is the "ancient warrior" and in indian astrology this constellation and planet is known as the "yogi planet" which parallels with "siva the yogi" which if you look at the early period of stallones life from childhood through his early films and the nature of the films as they went into budget they were made on a shoestring and in austere conditions which was a test of endurance not just for the film character but also stallone himself , As his karma was reflecting austerity, discipline ,maturity, responsibility to oneself which rocky ,rambo 1 all reflect this desparate need of self preservation and self protection, which is what both those films indicate. This reflects the saturnian and capricornian nature of beginning earth karma for both these constellations are born of the earth element which indicates basic and practical survival techniques Which in both films this was strongly aspected as a reflection of having to live on a higher instinct of consciousness , which as stallones personal karma was reflecting the earth qualities of living by instinct and the hunter mentality (rambo one) this naturally built the inner strength of survival nature which stallone had to find within himself not just to play the film part , But to reflect his own personal inner strength of mind and body through the character he was playing which is only a mirror of his own pastlife natures and character ,so stallone was really playing himself. Or at least bringing a facet of himself to the surface so that he could begin to one burn through old consciousness and karmic residues and secondly he could create a mind which had a greater confidence of who he is in this life. The most important factor of seeing "john rambo , rocky , cobra , cliffhanger judge dredd" as all facets of stallones pastlife consciousness and character is by looking at his surname and breaking the name into three , "STALLONE BECOMES STA ALL ONE (STAY ALL ONE)" "STALLONE BECOMES STA ALLONE (STAY ALONE) " Naturally if you look at the characters and consciousness of those austere warriors or states of mind that stallone reflects on screen naturally his surname naturally mirrors the higher mind and true nature of stallones consciousness as he reflects this individual who lives up to the surname that stallone has in this life. Naturally in the eighties "SYLVESTER" WAS ANAGRAMED TO "SLY", WHICH NATURALLY MIRRORS THE NATURE OF THE WARRIOR HUNTER RAMBO IN HIS SURVIVAL INSTINCTS OF PRESERVATION. Also the name spells "vest" which is all "rambo one" ended up in as he escaped the police station and also the "lester" which was one of the "first blood police characters" in the film ,on a more lighthearted note !ones name speaks many a story of past and future consciousness and events. The "first blood" film was made at a progression of "stallones karma" when hie had "earth constellations" aspecting his character which is as explained earlier why the austere nature of cold, no clothes, wearing wet clothes in "rambo one / first blood " was such a strong feature as well as physical injury, So this film was the character building and inner strength that stallone needed to build his own personal confidence to continue his development as a lone wolf character in order to mirror his name "SLY /HUNTER WARRIOR STALLONE / STA ALL ONE/ STA ALONE" in order to build his own mind and consciousness. As the progression of "stallones" ascendant and karma astrologically went into"aquarius" this being an "air" constellation naturally brought a new "rambo 2"to the surface which naturally had a sunnier warmer climate, had reflections of the eccentric nature of "aquarius" with "buddhas" appearing in front of "rambo" in the jungle reflecting stallones pastlife spiritual consciousness , Being filmed in a supposed south asian country as in vietnam, another reflection to stallones pastlife wanderings, the soldier who looked over stallones file in the base hanger in the beginning and spoke of his medals ,and origins, as in "INDIAN / GERMAN" descent This naturally reflecting either" india indian or native american indian" either way india reflects through stallonees pastlife link to "the buddhas in the film , and the name rambo as in ram / lord rama , and the country vietnam" . The native american aspect linking to some aspect of one of stallones past life regressions which was made public, but again the warrior aspect coming through either way coupled with the spiritual aspect in the form of the "buddhas and the monastary" which was aspected in "rambo 2 and 3" So the "aquarian karma of stallone" in these two films naturally brought the "air mind of aquarius" to the surface as in "helicopters ,weapons, gun ships"which naturally expressed the science and technology of the "aquarian mind" Which was reflected through stallones karma in his progression of his ascendant as well as his "sun constellation" which was in "leo" which is the physical _______________expression of its higher mind aquarius" which as both of these are "fixed constellations" naturally this explains why when you look at the consciousness of "rambo" he has this one track dimension of achieving his goals and objectives. Also another aspect of seeing the "eccentric nature" of stallones karma through his progressed ascendant was the "necklace" that he wore in the film after the vietnamese freedom fighter girl was shot at the river, This showed the esoteric nature and heavenly aspect of "aquarius air mind" being expressed for stones and crystals are planets which have exploded their karma / lifespan and natural atoms particles /meteorites come to earth eventually ,which is why the jade necklace "rambo" adopts is a piece of the heavens which mirrors the "aquarian nature of higher thinking " Another aspect of "stallones name mirroring the lone wolf" was as the vietnamese girl in "rambo 2" asked him to take her to america his detached reply of "yes" reflected the "physically and emotionally" detached nature of "aquarius" and as she gets killed a moment later, This again indicating how "stallone / rambo" as characters seem to have a karma of being individual in their standing and "staying alone /stallone" as a mind and consciousness For "spiritual warriors rambo =gods warrior" are lone wolfs which is the call sign "rambo uses in the interrogation by the russians" "lone wolf calling wolf den" again the "aquarian nature" reflecting this very independant invincible mind and character. Also the packaging company of the videos were called "universal" which mirrors the age we are in as well as the "stallone aquarian karma" so this explains "stallone and rambo" as characters ,but explains them as a mind consciousness and pastlife character which has carried that karma as a warrior into the present and future. All the films that "stallone" made in the eighties all had that flamboyant air of "aquarian uranian" energy for in "cobra" one of the bad guys he is after says in one line "this is the way of the new world" which symbolises "the aquarian karma" of stallone as well as the rising of the "aquarian age", Also in "rocky four" the whole film was based on the "now super rich and able to buy all the gadgets balboa" which mirrors his own personal aquarian karma dueto the gadgets and scientific structure of the film ,with toys electrically for his child, the music of theme coupled with the superfast cars, the glossiness of colour the film radiated, The universal anthem of trying to unite the world or russia and america at the end of "rocky four" which as much as this was a script ,the "stallone aquarian karma" reflecting out a spiritual message through the script of a film ,which is the true "aquarian mind" of humanitarian concern. Also the name "rocky" again mirrors the "fixed mind of stallones progressed sun in leo and aquarian ascendant" which have a one track train of thought due to the fixed karmic reflection. The name "balboa" reflects the word "bala which in india means spiritual power" the word "bo" which naturally links to "rambo" but also the name of "buddhas place of enlightenment "bo dha gaya in india" and the ancient name of "scotland which is alba" Which is the home of the celtic warriors such as the character "william wallace aka braveheart" so stallone reflecting the "warrior nature" through his screen actions through two personalities of similar nature. Naturally in another way of seeing "stallones nature of universaltility" was through his "aquarian nature giving him that ability of truly being at that period of progression of his karma the universal warrior" Which is why he would at the end of "rocky four and rambo 2 and 3 " he would give this "spiritual message" of humanitarian concern which was the reflection of his own personal need to speak peace to the world and not just through his physical action. "Stallone due to pastlife good spiritual karma" was able to spread the name of god through his character rambo" for "ram/lord rama" is the "warrior king incarnation of krsna over 5000 years ago. As this name also contains the "planet mars" which is the "warrior god planet" in the earth planetary system , naturally this reflects the true nature of "stallones / rocky /rambos" consciousness throughout this period of karmic reflection . May this give you a clearer understanding of stallone as a personality, character and consciousness . May this also show you how the pastlife consciousness of an individual has the ability to express itself into the present and future, this continuity is more seen through fixed karma constellations which are "taurus ,leo ,scorpio, aquarius" which continue all karmas from pastlife into presentlife. May this also give you a chance to see how the hand of divinity works in their own subtle ways to keep the spiritual karma alive not just individually but collectively as a whole for the universe. TO ADD TO THE ABOVE ABOUT RAMBO 4 IN 2005 / 6 The new film rambo 4 will bring stallone out into his own self once again and allow his true soul nature and ego to reflect itself which when you are a demigod to have a character like rambo within you at times this shows the need to bring it out and allow him to flex himself . the rambo 4 film wil bring stallone into the modern world and this will give him a new challenge in that as much as the aquarian age gives technology when the war needs heroes and not machines and computers , then rambo supercedes all technology with the onwe man action of blood and guts and supreme intuition and courage , so rambo in this film will be in amongst his own people who still cannot support him with all the technology , so the barechest and knife are on show once again __________________________________________________ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? |
| Mightywarrior |
Jun 12 2005, 06:53 PM
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Great analysis Of Stallone , I see your take on Rambo 4 the challenge of modern man will definitely be an element in this I'm sure
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| RAMBO |
Sep 23 2005, 10:16 AM
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RAMBO AS A MAN AND SOUL HIS MISSION TO FIND HIMSELF
the film rambo 2 is the beginning for stallone to show that rambo is more than a broken man of war . stallone is rambo as much as rambo is stallone , rambo is the soul nature ofstallone . gods warrior is another way of seeing rambo a man who finds buddhas in a jungle in vietnam who finds that his own people betray him hence why the rambo instinct of single mindedness is how rambo reflects himself in each situation. rambo is a man a soul who has been tortured in past life as well as this life hence why the back and shoulders are covered in scars which symbolises the past life and the chest which symbolises the future has just as many scars. rambo is a soul who is destined to transcend his past life karma of dependance on the outside world , hence why his first blood film reflects a mans journey / karma being shown to him that the futility of surviving in hostile territory as america considering the attitude of his own people left rambo in a no win situation of hunting the town until he had got his revenge on the police force and showing his true self. rambo the mission is the beginning of stallones new life as a freedom fighter without the attachment to material support or dependance on others as in the army or fellow soldiers hence why his army friend in first blood was killed by cancer. this is why rambo was put in a prison just to balance him so that he could find his stabilityof mind and emotion , thus the few years he spent on his own taught him about self reliance and the true nature of his own nature . when he gets the mission to vietnam naturally this is rambos final test as he rescues the pows naturally this makes rambo realise that there is nothing left in america , for they still do not respect their own people even in a war zone . this leaves rambo in a position of being dependant on his own instincts and god . hence why rambo walks away from thailand into the jungles and meets monks who give him shelter so he can build a new life rambos life of hell in first blood was to give him the final understanding of letting go of the past physically and attaching to himself hence the mission in rambo 2 . -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
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Sep 23 2005, 10:21 AM
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RAMBO AS A MAN AND SOUL HIS MISSION TO FIND HIMSELF
the film rambo 2 is the beginning for stallone to show that rambo is more than a broken man of war . stallone is rambo as much as rambo is stallone , rambo is the soul nature ofstallone . gods warrior is another way of seeing rambo a man who finds buddhas in a jungle in vietnam who finds that his own people betray him hence why the rambo instinct of single mindedness is how rambo reflects himself in each situation. rambo is a man a soul who has been tortured in past life as well as this life hence why the back and shoulders are covered in scars which symbolises the past life and the chest which symbolises the future has just as many scars. rambo is a soul who is destined to transcend his past life karma of dependance on the outside world , hence why his first blood film reflects a mans journey / karma being shown to him that the futility of surviving in hostile territory as america considering the attitude of his own people left rambo in a no win situation of hunting the town until he had got his revenge on the police force and showing his true self. rambo the mission is the beginning of stallones new life as a freedom fighter without the attachment to material support or dependance on others as in the army or fellow soldiers hence why his army friend in first blood was killed by cancer. this is why rambo was put in a prison just to balance him so that he could find his stabilityof mind and emotion , thus the few years he spent on his own taught him about self reliance and the true nature of his own nature . when he gets the mission to vietnam naturally this is rambos final test as he rescues the pows naturally this makes rambo realise that there is nothing left in america , for they still do not respect their own people even in a war zone . this leaves rambo in a position of being dependant on his own instincts and god . hence why rambo walks away from thailand into the jungles and meets monks who give him shelter so he can build a new life rambos life of hell in first blood was to give him the final understanding of letting go of the past physically and attaching to himself hence the mission in rambo 2 . -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________ |
| rambo paras skye |
Sep 29 2005, 05:44 PM
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THE REASON WHY RAMBO DOES NOT NEED A HEAD BAND IN RAMBO 4
in spiritual terms the use of a headband was and is to keep the aries mind of the head in one straight line and thinking in one direction to give spiritual vision rather than just physical everything we wear on the body strengthens the chakras of that body part be that rings on fingers , toes , necklaces , amulets , brooches , headscarves / bands , clothes everything that this body has on it provides in one form or another a protection or strengthening of that chakra so one can see clearly or think clearly thus rambo means violent aggressive person in dictionary form the headband on a person like rambo who has an extreme physical aggression , this naturally strengthens the aries mind to focus its need of independance and assertion intro a productive expression rather than just mindless violence as it was in the beginning of first blood , when rambo was breaking out of the town as he adopted the headband his mind was strengthened to become more focused and clearer in its perspectives of its desperation for freedom and so the minds arguement had a foundation for its extreme _expression rambo being a soul who seeks freedom over anything else naturally will go to the extreme lengths to stay free as you see in first blood and rambo 2 / 3 as the new rambo 4 film is based more on a personal portrayl of rambos non exsistent personal life up to this point , the cleaner image of rambo shows that rambos mind has become more able to cope with life among civilians as he is working in the un environmental dept among some of his own people being married has given rambo that stability of mind physically / emotionally , but like any war hero his mind will always reflect the horrors of life and war . as rambo is a universal uranian soul he naturally has a life without a straight line physically other than knowing his soul , mind need freedom away from material extremism thus rambo in rambo 4 having stabilised himself like he was in rambo 2 in the quarrey mine before trautman came , was able to find that stability away from gross material life hence why rambo has a very cancerian , piscean karma in that he needs that support from institutional organisations such as the forces , the monastary in rambo 3 , the search for family / acceptance in society or war comrades as in first blood hence rambos speech at the beginning and end of rambo 2 " my friends died here a part of me died here" thus rambo now appearing with a new image naturally puts rambo in a position of being able to think straight without that desperate need of father / mother figures having to nurture him as you see in first blood first blood was a total portrayl of one mans need of freedom and his fight to be who he is and not a clone or puppett of societys making . thus rambo 4 shows the real man who has mastered himself who is mature now to show the real rambo a man of confidence in himself and his abilities that is the real rambo |
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QUOTE(RAMBO @ Sep 23 2005, 10:21 AM) RAMBO AS A MAN AND SOUL HIS MISSION TO FIND HIMSELF the film rambo 2 is the beginning for stallone to show that rambo is more than a broken man of war . stallone is rambo as much as rambo is stallone , rambo is the soul nature ofstallone . gods warrior is another way of seeing rambo a man who finds buddhas in a jungle in vietnam who finds that his own people betray him hence why the rambo instinct of single mindedness is how rambo reflects himself in each situation. rambo is a man a soul who has been tortured in past life as well as this life hence why the back and shoulders are covered in scars which symbolises the past life and the chest which symbolises the future has just as many scars. rambo is a soul who is destined to transcend his past life karma of dependance on the outside world , hence why his first blood film reflects a mans journey / karma being shown to him that the futility of surviving in hostile territory as america considering the attitude of his own people left rambo in a no win situation of hunting the town until he had got his revenge on the police force and showing his true self. rambo the mission is the beginning of stallones new life as a freedom fighter without the attachment to material support or dependance on others as in the army or fellow soldiers hence why his army friend in first blood was killed by cancer. this is why rambo was put in a prison just to balance him so that he could find his stabilityof mind and emotion , thus the few years he spent on his own taught him about self reliance and the true nature of his own nature . when he gets the mission to vietnam naturally this is rambos final test as he rescues the pows naturally this makes rambo realise that there is nothing left in america , for they still do not respect their own people even in a war zone . this leaves rambo in a position of being dependant on his own instincts and god . hence why rambo walks away from thailand into the jungles and meets monks who give him shelter so he can build a new life rambos life of hell in first blood was to give him the final understanding of letting go of the past physically and attaching to himself hence the mission in rambo 2 . -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- __________________________________________________ |
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Rambo was not a real life figure.
His heroic exploits were thought to be inspired to those of Colonel Bo Gritz, a real life Green Beret himself. There are a lot of post-war controversies about Bo Gritz. However, Bo actions in Vietnam were legendary. He was involved in numerous black-ops missions deep into North Vietnam. Because these missions were classified, these missions were not publicized. One example of this daring missions was when a group of Green Berets were dropped behind the enemy lines to retrieve/destroy the top-secret software operating the surveillance radar in a U2 spy plane crashing in North Vietnam mountains in 1966. Against all odds, the mission was successful. Bo was said to be instrumental in this operation. |
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