Full Version: Star Trek Phaser Querstionable
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A Star Trek Phaser from the Original 1966 series is being auctioned supposedly from Gene Roddenberys own collection. The seller says he lost Mr.Roddenberys letter in a fire. Has anyone heard about this?
Probably a replica toy, or other common replica.
Usually when a rare item is for sale its not going to be the hero one with electronics and all. This goes for any production.
Also Gene Roddenberry probably sold/handed off replicas with letters also. A letter from the 60's is seldom going to spell out this is screen used or not.
If it has sound thats a dead give away as sound would be added post production and not created from the prop itself.
I once saw a Robocop 3 arm for sale looked pretty good and never had seen anything like it before, but it made sounds and light up, so I knew it was a toy/replica I had just not heard of before.
Usually when a rare item is for sale its not going to be the hero one with electronics and all. This goes for any production.
Also Gene Roddenberry probably sold/handed off replicas with letters also. A letter from the 60's is seldom going to spell out this is screen used or not.
If it has sound thats a dead give away as sound would be added post production and not created from the prop itself.
I once saw a Robocop 3 arm for sale looked pretty good and never had seen anything like it before, but it made sounds and light up, so I knew it was a toy/replica I had just not heard of before.
hello --
I think I know the auction you are talking about.
if so, this phaser is not from the show.
the auction I saw (lot #90) shows a pic of a phaser
made (probably in the 70's) by Brad Nelson, Ed Miarecki,
or Rich Coyle.
again, the pic I saw shows a TOS phaser but it is not
from the show.
it's well known that Gene R befriended Brad Nelson and
had some of Brad's phasers. he even hired Brad to produce
the phasers for Star Trek Phase II, the second series that was
scrapped to make the Trek movies instead. so my guess is that
if this is from Gene R somehow, it's one of the Brad Nelson
phasers he had.
perhaps it did come from someone from the show's collection
as mentioned, but it's not the real deal. I search 'everyday'
for a real screen used phaser, it's at the very top of my wanted
list
I hope this info helps!
startrekpropguy@hotmail.com
I think I know the auction you are talking about.
if so, this phaser is not from the show.
the auction I saw (lot #90) shows a pic of a phaser
made (probably in the 70's) by Brad Nelson, Ed Miarecki,
or Rich Coyle.
again, the pic I saw shows a TOS phaser but it is not
from the show.
it's well known that Gene R befriended Brad Nelson and
had some of Brad's phasers. he even hired Brad to produce
the phasers for Star Trek Phase II, the second series that was
scrapped to make the Trek movies instead. so my guess is that
if this is from Gene R somehow, it's one of the Brad Nelson
phasers he had.
perhaps it did come from someone from the show's collection
as mentioned, but it's not the real deal. I search 'everyday'
for a real screen used phaser, it's at the very top of my wanted
list
I hope this info helps!
startrekpropguy@hotmail.com
hello --
please see my reply under your thread 'Star Trek phaser questionable'.
I hope that info helps.
please see my reply under your thread 'Star Trek phaser questionable'.
I hope that info helps.
I would also like to add that just because something comes from someone involved in a show does not mean its screen used.
The item could be a backup item, prototype, or even a replica. I have encounted this myself in items from other productions.
The item could be a backup item, prototype, or even a replica. I have encounted this myself in items from other productions.
yep!
Glad I did not win this since the history is not complete.
Check out their items at http://www.americanmemorabilia.com/Auction...?auccat=Movies&
The Replacements movie jersey that has "heavy use" looks brand new to me.
I know the company that made them made a lot of jersies that were not used too.
The Replacements movie jersey that has "heavy use" looks brand new to me.
I know the company that made them made a lot of jersies that were not used too.
How do they get away with it?
They think it is, thats all any auction house can state about something they sell to be honest if they are not disclosing the source.
If you think classic trek stuff is confusing just look at modern star trek props. You have the screen used items, backup items that were finished properly, unpainted backup items, replicas cast off screen used items, pieces from original molds years later, and loads of custom replicas.
Combine all that with a load of people that know the exact paint codes and you have difficulty telling much of anything for certain from a picture alone.
If you think classic trek stuff is confusing just look at modern star trek props. You have the screen used items, backup items that were finished properly, unpainted backup items, replicas cast off screen used items, pieces from original molds years later, and loads of custom replicas.
Combine all that with a load of people that know the exact paint codes and you have difficulty telling much of anything for certain from a picture alone.
QUOTE(Mrmovieprop @ Jun 23 2005, 11:32 PM)
They think it is, thats all any auction house can state about something they sell to be honest if they are not disclosing the source.
If you think classic trek stuff is confusing just look at modern star trek props. You have the screen used items, backup items that were finished properly, unpainted backup items, replicas cast off screen used items, pieces from original molds years later, and loads of custom replicas.
Combine all that with a load of people that know the exact paint codes and you have difficulty telling much of anything for certain from a picture alone.
If you think classic trek stuff is confusing just look at modern star trek props. You have the screen used items, backup items that were finished properly, unpainted backup items, replicas cast off screen used items, pieces from original molds years later, and loads of custom replicas.
Combine all that with a load of people that know the exact paint codes and you have difficulty telling much of anything for certain from a picture alone.
I spoke to them and they are 100% sure it is real.They said the inside electronics are from the 60'd and not the 70's.They also said it was heavy and solid and was the real deal. But no COA so I am staying away from it.
I wonder if the prop has sound?
Classic Star Trek phasers have been so well replicated.
The odds of an auction having a screen used one that happens to be a hero one with electronics and everything is slim. I don't think Profiles in History has sold a classic Star Trek hero phaser before well at least in the last 5 years or so.
If it was broken in two and painted a solid color it would be more likely to be screen used. This goes for any major scifi weapon.
That being said authentication is a matter of opinion and classic Star Trek items are not something I am specifically knowledgeable in too greatly.
Classic Star Trek phasers have been so well replicated.
The odds of an auction having a screen used one that happens to be a hero one with electronics and everything is slim. I don't think Profiles in History has sold a classic Star Trek hero phaser before well at least in the last 5 years or so.
If it was broken in two and painted a solid color it would be more likely to be screen used. This goes for any major scifi weapon.
That being said authentication is a matter of opinion and classic Star Trek items are not something I am specifically knowledgeable in too greatly.
When I was at the Star Trek convention in Vegas Richard Arnold told the croud that there were never any show used props that made sound or had built in lights.. those were all added as special effect. there were people there thinking they had real props from the show that made sounds. they were all sadly disappointed.
QUOTE(CHRIS @ Aug 6 2005, 08:34 PM)
When I was at the Star Trek convention in Vegas Richard Arnold told the croud that there were never any show used props that made sound or had built in lights.. those were all added as special effect. there were people there thinking they had real props from the show that made sounds. they were all sadly disappointed.
Not true Chris.From what I have heard,some Hero Star Trek props either had a small light at the tip so the special fx guy knew where to paint in the laser on each frame of film,or a clicking sound so they knew where to add the laser.I believe it was a small light at the tip.Anyone?
Hi Lisa and all, OK... well I was referring to the original series. ..oops my mistake.
I'm by no means at all an expert. I really know diddly-sq.. but if you were referring to the Original Series, I would say, OH!!!!! ... If this is true and there were several different models produced, say for special scenes, close-ups and such, then the ones I posses(..my precious-es), my in fact be real and screen used. (talking out loud)..
The mystery continues... and slowly unravels..
OK. Question, Who are the top 3 star trek authorities on a prop authentication?? In any ones opinion..(anyone got contact info??
I know that some of the prop reproducers have copied the originals, (original series), but is that saying that ever single prop (communicator, phaser(, were exactly the same with no deviations in design??
I'm just trying to cut through the fog of several knowledgeable opinions on my props.
Thanks in advance for any positive input.
~Chris
I'm by no means at all an expert. I really know diddly-sq.. but if you were referring to the Original Series, I would say, OH!!!!! ... If this is true and there were several different models produced, say for special scenes, close-ups and such, then the ones I posses(..my precious-es), my in fact be real and screen used. (talking out loud)..
The mystery continues... and slowly unravels..
OK. Question, Who are the top 3 star trek authorities on a prop authentication?? In any ones opinion..(anyone got contact info??
I know that some of the prop reproducers have copied the originals, (original series), but is that saying that ever single prop (communicator, phaser(, were exactly the same with no deviations in design??
I'm just trying to cut through the fog of several knowledgeable opinions on my props.
Thanks in advance for any positive input.
~Chris
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